tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post3810212097420611223..comments2023-07-14T07:42:45.273-05:00Comments on Beam Me Up - Science & Science Fiction news: 10 Most Technophobic MoviesBeam Me Uphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-54337850509589975752011-02-02T01:48:14.872-05:002011-02-02T01:48:14.872-05:00Anon
Wow, wonder why we skipped over Colossus (For...Anon<br />Wow, wonder why we skipped over Colossus (Forbin Project right?) Yeah because I can remember going to that one or seeing it on tv...kinda blurred that one is... by yeah, phobic to the max!<br /> <br />2001 is rife with the phobia Hal of course is predominant but the way they treated the monoliths always feel like there was something evil just under the surface....music and the strange Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-70973804244906123302011-02-02T01:38:17.152-05:002011-02-02T01:38:17.152-05:00Movies that really struck a cord with me when I wa...Movies that really struck a cord with me when I was growing up.<br /><br />Westworld ( already brought up )<br /><br />Colossus which was kind of like the first Skynet /Matrix/ Wargames<br /><br />Andromeda Strain, ( also mentioned)<br /><br />2001 Space Odyssey, how can we forget the HAL ?<br /><br />I guess computers have it out for us.<br /><br />Oh and the "Dances with smurfs" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-6537308494623193402011-01-30T16:06:55.789-05:002011-01-30T16:06:55.789-05:00Josh
"Tech is a tool in an of itself neither ...Josh<br />"Tech is a tool in an of itself neither evil nor good."<br /><br />I was all set to go the "yeah, but what about" route but you have to look at the core of the statement and you are dead on. But is the list really about is this or that evil? No in my book. The movies mentioned are "I am scared of this tech .... because" and probably not that well Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-673700678082422162011-01-30T13:29:41.049-05:002011-01-30T13:29:41.049-05:00"Tech is a tool in an of itself neither evil ..."Tech is a tool in an of itself neither evil nor good."<br /><br />Ultimately, I think that's what irks me about the list. It's like trying to say "The Departed" is anti-handgun because everyone ends up shot to death by the end. Or "The Magnificent Seven" is anti-gun-control because it promotes firearms for self-defense. I'd argue that good fiction, JoshMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00000055082864354980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-90207076412825514702011-01-28T13:06:55.597-05:002011-01-28T13:06:55.597-05:00Thanks for weighing in Josh
I think you state the ...Thanks for weighing in Josh<br />I think you state the fundamental problem with trying to categorize any large scale diverse group with a single definition. When you look at a movie like say Blade Runner, it is easy enough to call technophobia and I call it not for the radical 6s like Roy. It's more of why incorporate something like a Rachel if not to incite "they are amongst us now!&Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-79978391341391165752011-01-28T11:32:11.475-05:002011-01-28T11:32:11.475-05:00My main beef with this list is that it seems to un...My main beef with this list is that it seems to unfairly lump a lot of nuance under the "technophobic" label. There is a world of difference between the paranoid technophobia of the Will Smith's "Robot" movie (which I refuse to acknowledge by the title it co-opted from Asimov's classic), and the occasional cautionary episode of "Star Trek".<br /><br />I wouldJoshMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00000055082864354980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-3578777190762713842011-01-25T23:52:20.688-05:002011-01-25T23:52:20.688-05:00Anon
I think you fairly well described the human c...Anon<br />I think you fairly well described the human condition. <br /><br />I would be tempted to say that the movies we have mentioned here are not so heavy handed so much as going down a path of least resistance.Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-25642624693595889042011-01-25T21:36:56.891-05:002011-01-25T21:36:56.891-05:00thanks for your comment. I personly like to see th...thanks for your comment. I personly like to see this movies as things we need to look at as a socity and personly. Im not a some great thinker but I do try to learn from all places. It sad to see how people try to change the situation to thier own view with out looking bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-59884012638796836902011-01-25T11:07:42.916-05:002011-01-25T11:07:42.916-05:00Anon
Great comment! Sorry it got lost in to overa...Anon<br />Great comment! Sorry it got lost in to overall "anonymous" chatter. lol no really, you hit it right on the head. I realize that for the most part the movies are an expression of the fear and not the problem in and of itself. But that is the fun of this type of discourse, to know that the movie is a vehicle and call it out. That is the real fun, I think.Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-66557035891274070352011-01-25T08:05:04.392-05:002011-01-25T08:05:04.392-05:00Well all the movies you listed are good examples f...Well all the movies you listed are good examples from the out and out blanit to the mild. The thing that most people don't seem to want to face is that the tech is not flawed or the aleins are bad, it the human nature that is flawed. We are not perfect or all knowing. We far too often try to make things in our own image, a flawed one at that, Now can we change that, I don't know, I hope Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-21331256924667783792011-01-23T14:33:56.048-05:002011-01-23T14:33:56.048-05:00Anonymous! Two PERFECT examples!!! Westworld is ...Anonymous! Two PERFECT examples!!! Westworld is blatant (I have a soft spot for Andromeda Strain) But yep, Yul Brenner for all intents was an early Terminator. Great call!Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-89891249129120241672011-01-23T11:17:43.387-05:002011-01-23T11:17:43.387-05:00Westworld? Andromeda Strain?Westworld? Andromeda Strain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-20108374853012895342011-01-23T02:51:11.694-05:002011-01-23T02:51:11.694-05:00John you are certainly a shameless self promoter! ...John you are certainly a shameless self promoter! lol. No matter... Your points are totally dead on. Plus when I lumped Serenity in with Firefly was a bit unfair. With Serenity, Josh had to tell a complete story and start a new arc at the same time. I really liked the movie, it was like settling in your favorite comfy chair. Any honestly, lumping Firefly in with the truly blatant message Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-26898684220414091912011-01-23T00:18:34.185-05:002011-01-23T00:18:34.185-05:00... Well, I would direct you to our "NASA the...... Well, I would direct you to our "NASA the frontier is everywhere" comments. https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=31959155&postID=5572590066129339760<br /><br />Joss Whedon, aka Josh, while not perhaps being a good capitalist (I don't know the guy or his politics) did create, what I believe to be, a half way decent (k, I'm lying... Awesome!!!) depiction of our future Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902318808272311187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-18232945308474649732011-01-22T18:52:06.371-05:002011-01-22T18:52:06.371-05:00John!
Dances with Smurfs! OMG! ROTF LMAO! Talk a...John!<br />Dances with Smurfs! OMG! ROTF LMAO! Talk about disdain! You took my DWW and upped the Anti. <br /><br />Dont get me wrong either I am a brown coat through and through, but even so, change a few main characters and set pieces and you have Star Wars. Ok, not fair Josh was no where near as heavy handed. But the minute the intro says "other...not so much" was Josh saying, &Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-33602436113418859202011-01-22T18:35:29.027-05:002011-01-22T18:35:29.027-05:00Anon, I dont for a second believe that being on th...Anon, I dont for a second believe that being on the list takes away from the films at all. Many like Metropolis are the very cornerstones of science fiction film making. Without paying homage to these films we are left with Plan 9, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes or Ants. Given the choice I will set through a hundred viewings of the technophobia of say Blade Runner before I will try again to wayBeam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-49433718805796036312011-01-22T17:52:08.778-05:002011-01-22T17:52:08.778-05:00Lets be honest with ourselves... More than a few o...Lets be honest with ourselves... More than a few of these movies are less "movie" and more "propaganda". Take Avatar (aka, Dances with Smurfs) for example and it's obvious disdain for capitalism or individual freedom (Battlefield Earth is another example... PS Have you had your OT levels checked lately?). <br /><br />The premise is that, if the individual is left to his Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902318808272311187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-79247719072882867022011-01-22T14:06:11.049-05:002011-01-22T14:06:11.049-05:00You're right. I'd forgotten about the rob...You're right. I'd forgotten about the robot duplicate of the resistance leader.<br />Metropolis does belong on this list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-2896692949596119642011-01-22T13:02:49.400-05:002011-01-22T13:02:49.400-05:00Anon, of course the comments about Metropolis come...Anon, of course the comments about Metropolis come from the original article. I just paraphrased them a bit. If you read their original comments on the movie, you kind of get where they are going. but in part you are right...it is about social class distinction and stratification. However with the complete restoration you see that technology was being used to bring about and inflame the Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-58338208896244660972011-01-22T10:25:00.921-05:002011-01-22T10:25:00.921-05:00I agree with your list except for Metropolis.
It&...I agree with your list except for Metropolis.<br /><br />It's not about machines or technology oppressing the workers. It's all about social classes.<br />The upper class live lives of luxury and idleness in the sunlight while the lower class grind away their miserable lives underground to support the upper class lifestyle. <br />Machines were a big part of the movie but they were not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-19898790562992674552011-01-21T17:36:35.552-05:002011-01-21T17:36:35.552-05:00Booooooooooooob....hummmmm comments a bit self se...Booooooooooooob....hummmmm comments a bit self serving? lol you know I ALWAYS kill promos, but you are on subject and funny. Besides...lol I like the book...sorry, only taken a look at the first....by bad.Beam Me Uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507215843874160767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31959155.post-29200458408930017962011-01-21T17:30:53.479-05:002011-01-21T17:30:53.479-05:00A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM: THE VISITOR [and later, th...A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM: THE VISITOR [and later, the other two parts of the trilogy, THE TRANSLATOR and THE HISTORIAN] *avoid* making any of these mistakes!! [If the author says so sporting a self-serving smile of pseudo satisfaction! And he does so sincerely.]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18192584650793363010noreply@blogger.com